Starting Over After Cancer

[bjgnome]

BeeYourself, do you have experience with dark field microscopy?

[Juristic Person]

William, how old are you?


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[Popps]

Vitamin B17 ~ Amygdalin ~ Laetrile
and their effects on cancer continued...


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Note: This is just a quick version of the facts found at this web site and in the book "World Without Cancer" by G. Edward Griffin. The book 'World Without Cancer' covers a lot of information on studies that were covered up and great scientist who where arrested when they began telling others about the truth of vitamin B17. Highly annotated for the serious student who wants to research the information for himself. Contains studies on Amygdalin (vitamin B17, laetrile) that were conducted at the famous cancer institute, Sloan Kettering and covered up. Full explanation of the politics of cancer from Mr. Edward Griffin. Go through the pages to learn from educated scientists and doctors.
Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth , and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

"But God (our Creator) hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;" 1 Corinthians 1:27
Vitamin B-17 is found in most fruit seeds. Its components make it vital for our survival without cancer. Seeds are for everyone to eat. Don't wait and see if you develop cancer to start eating the seeds.
Vitamin B17 is found in seeds such as the apple, peach, cherry, grapes, and apricot. It is found in some beans and many grasses such as wheat grass. The hard wooden pit in the middle of the apricot or peach for example, is not supposed to be thrown away. In fact, the wooden shell is actually a strong armor protecting one of the most important foods known to man, the seed. It is one of the main courses of food in cultures such as the Navajo Indians, the Hunzakuts, the Abkhazians and many more. Cultures such as these have never had a reported case of cancer when eating their traditional foods!
We don't need to make the seed a main course in our diets, but we do need the equivalent of about seven apricots seeds per day. This will nearly guarantee a cancer free life. Other foods that contain vitamin B-17 are: bitter almonds, millet, lima beans and more. (The bitter almond tree has also been banned from the U.S. years ago.)
Apricot seeds have the highest content of B-17 on earth. They are chewable and bitter and a necessity in our diet. Although apricot seeds are bitter, they must be integrated into our diets. They may be added to food or chopped up and swallowed with a teaspoon of honey or applesauce. The seeds may be used in combination with the Laetrile Cancer Therapy. As a preventative, Dr. Krebs (the scientist who discovered B-17) asserts that 7 or more apricot seeds per day will make it impossible to develop cancer in one's life time. One or two of the B-17 tablets (100 mg) is an acceptable supplemental dosage per day. Stores do not sell "raw" apricot seeds because of the raids the FDA made on those stores with vitamin B17 and the apricot seeds years ago.

In nearly all cases when the B-17 is taken in high doses the tumors shrink. Now one is faced with the confusion of staying on the chemotherapy or stopping the chemo, due to the unclearness of what shrunk the cancer. Those that continue on with the chemotherapy have a relatively poor outcome. We understand that once an individual is caught in the vacuum cycle of chemotherapy, radiation and operations, it is very difficult to pull away from this higher authority (principalities, prestigious doctors and hospitals) and say "NO" to more chemotherapy.
My friend Jason still has a small tumor in his kidney and would not let Dr. Nagler of Beth Israel Hospital remove his kidney despite his certified "scare" letters sent to his house over and over again. Hundreds of people make the wrong decisions because they were expecting their tumor to disappear. ( This is one of the things you have to know.) When it shrinks down that's it, start rejoicing and continue on your natural regimen. Do not stop eating the seeds. The tumor doesn't disappear. Most doctors will still see a tumor and continue to give a person chemotherapy (until they're dead) in attempts to make it disappear. Malignant (cancerous) tumors are only a small percent cancer and when the cancer part starts dying off, the tumor only shrinks down the percent that the tumor was cancerous. In other words, if a kidney tumor is 10 percent cancerous the tumor will shrink down only 10 percent. So if you get a CAT scan, which one should never get (with 6 CAT scans there is over 60% more of a chance of one developing Leukemia; MRI's are much safer as they use magnetic imaging and not radiation) a 10 percent shrinkage will be concluded as "NO CHANGE" by a doctor.
If you have cancer and would like some information on how to take the B-17 as well as foods to eat and foods that you should not eat, keep reading.
Here are some helpful tips on improving your health and preventing cancer. Note: Let your body get used to the new changes and start everything at a low dosage and gradually build up or you may get sick.
If you do not have cancer and you want to prevent it, eat 7 to 10 apricots seeds daily (start out at a low dosage, such as 1 or 2 at a time and work up to 7 to 10), stay away from refined sugar (sugar feeds cancer), caffeine (very bad for your liver and kidneys), and white flour (easily changed to sugars). Read your food labels and educate yourself on ingredients that are listed. Try to eat more raw foods and stay away from the processed food. If it has a warning label on it, you know what to do, right?
If you have cancer now, after finishing this page please read the link on the left labeled "Protocol". I have reworded the info here as a short version of what is there.
At least 21 days of the injectable B-17 at 9 grams per day plus up to 6 seeds per hour. Start the seeds at a low dosage (such as 1 or 2 at a time) as they must go through your digestive tract and can cause nausea. The injectable needs to be put into a vein.

(OR)
Up to eighteen 500 MG tablets per day and up to 6 seeds per hour for the seeds and/or tablets (start out with a low dosage and build up). Your digestive system must have time to accommodate the dosage.
Plus there is a pancreatic enzyme that helps breaks down the protein wall around a cancer cell. You can get this enzyme by eating raw organic pineapple or you can order a product called "Megazyme Forte" from the same place you got the seeds. Eat just a helping or so of pineapple per day with the seeds.
Start taking a low dosage of vitamin C every day (about 500 to 1000 MG) and slowly build your way up to 10,000 to 25,000 MG per day. This will take some time to get your body used to such levels so don't be too anxious about getting to the higher dosages right away. Some symptoms of too high a dose could be headaches, nausea, diarrhea, etc. This does not mean that the product is not working. On the contrary, it means that your body is being detoxified too fast so you need to back off on the dosage. You want to detox your body at a slow rate so you won't get the symptoms described above.
Regardless if you have already torn down you immune system with chemo or radiation, you will want to build it up as much as you can. One way to do this is with a product called AHCC. AHCC helps build your immune system up to the level that is needed to fight cancer and other diseases.
Drink a lot of pure water. Microwater is the best.


Juicing is good for your liver. You can get some beets and juice them with other vegetables. It is very important that you start slow on this as it could make you feel sick at first. Drink a small amount at first (such as 1/4 cup) and slowly build up to higher amounts. The beet juice will cause your liver to dump toxins into your system as it is a very good liver cleanse. A lot ( about 8 to 10 eight ounce glasses of water per day) of pure micro water will help you rinse the toxins out.
Now for the foods you should not eat... Refined sugar (sugar feeds cancer), use Spenda™ or Stevia, caffeine (very bad for your liver and kidneys), white flour (easily changed to sugars), and try to eat very little meat during this time. You can have meat but meat takes away from the digestive enzymes that help tear down the protein wall that is around the cancer cell.
As for anything new that you do or take, always start out at a low dosage and build your way up. That way you can monitor what your body is telling you. Now if you feel sick when you start doing any of these things you have never done, it does not mean it is not working. It may be that you are taking too much too fast. Some natural products will detox your system and if you do it too fast, it can make you feel sick, (flu like symptoms). Just reduce the dosages of any new thing you are doing for awhile and slowly increase from that point.
Most importantly, pray in faith and ask God for wisdom, help, and for His healing power. James 1:5-8 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. (KJV)
As you continue looking through the pages at this site you will find; Biological and chemical descriptions of the destruction of a cancer cell by the components of a seed (B-17), politics of cancer, as well as doctors and scientists that are 100% sure that cancer is a direct result of a deficiency in B-17. Remember how scurvy, rickets, pellagra and Beri Beri were results of deficiencies in vitamins B & C. It took decades and killed millions before the kings and medical industry of the time accepted the simple vitamin solutions. Today, we are in a nearly identical situation concerning cancer.
Click below on "nature of cancer" to read Dr. Krebs speech on B17 at the Cancer Control convention. We strongly suggest that you start prevention now and do not wait for cancer to develop before you take action.
Hosea 4:6 "My people perish for lack of knowledge"
The FDA will not allow vitamin B-17 and information about vitamin B-17 to be sold together. As a courtesy we provide the links below in case you would like to order apricot seeds or vitamin B-17. You can click the banner
Now for my disclaimer. I am not a doctor and I have not had any traditional training. I am just a person with information that other people have studied and proven to be effective and wrote in books. I just pass that information on to you.

So how does B17 kill cancer?

Firstly we need to understand that our bodies use several enzymes to perform many tasks. Our body has one particular enzyme called Rhodanese which is found in large quantities throughout the body but is not present where ever there are cancer cells. Yet, where ever you find cancer in the body, you find another enzyme called Beta-Glucosidase. So, we have the enzyme Rhodanese found everywhere in the body except at the cancer cells, and we have the enzyme Beta-Glucosidase found in very large quantities only at the cancer cell but not found anywhere else in the body. If there is no cancer in the body there is no enzyme Beta-Glucosidase.

Now the following is what scares most people. You see, Vitamin B17 is made up of 2 parts glucose, 1 part Hydrogen Cyanide and 1 part Benzaldehyde(analgesic/painkiller). So its very important you understand the following:

When B17 is introduced to the body, it is broken down by the enzyme Rhodanese. The Rhodanese breaks the Hydrogen Cyanide and Benzaldehyde down into 2 by-products, Thiocyanate and Benzoic acid which are beneficial in nourishing healthy cells and forms the metabolic pool production for vitamin B12. Any excess of these by-products is expelled in normal fashion from the body via urine. Vitamin B17 passes through your body and does not last longer than 80 minutes inside your body as a result of the Rhodanese breaking it down. (Hydrogen Cyanide has been proven to be chemically inert and non toxic when taken as food or refined pharmaceutical such as laetrile. Sugar has be shown to be 20 times more toxic than B17 - see good & bad cyanide).

HERE IS THE GOOD PART - When the B17 comes into contact with cancer cells, there is no Rhodanese to break it down and neutrelise it but instead, only the enzyme Beta-Gucosidase is present in very large quantities. When B17 and Beta-Glucosidase come into contact with each other, a chemical reaction occurs and the Hydrogen Cyanide and Benzaldehyde combine synergistically to produce a poison which destroys and kills the cancer cells.

This whole process is known as selective toxicity. Only the cancer cells are specifically targeted and destroyed. See the diagram below.

That is how Vitamin B17 Kills Cancer. It has been proven and illustrated to work by the some of the top specialists in the world. Thats why the Contreras hospital in Mexico and Harold Manner Hospital have been able over the LAST 30 YEARS to successfully treat over 100,000 cancer patients!

[WilliamC]

Originally Posted by Juristic Person

William, how old are you?

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I'm 45. I'm looking for a long-term cure, not just remission.

[WilliamC]

Still keeping busy and am not able to respond to several good posts here but I'll get too it.

I may be getting better, it's kinda early to tell but since this past Wednesday I've been drinking several glasses vegetable/fruit juices a day, eating a bowl of oatmeal made with deionized water and flavored with a bit of table salt (I haven't gotten the sea salt yet) margarine (yes I need to replace this with whole butter) and honey. I also eat a banana in the morning.

For my main meal lunch I've been getting vegetable plates from a couple different restaurants. They are Southern Style veggies, well cooked and seasoned with animal fats but I figure they are much better than any type of fast food or processed food.
Looks like I actually need to buy some things to cook with, starting with a good quality roasting pan so I can start oven roasting fresh veggies, but I'm not there yet.

I've been drinking a quart of the Pau-D-Arco tea a day since Wednesday, and since then I've not had to take any OTC stool softener I had been using for the past 2 months or so. I guess that is a positive improvement.

My supplements from the American Botanical Pharmacy arrived today, and I've already taken a 1/2 days 'dose' of the Superfood formula (basically an algae based multivitamine and micronutrient supplement) and the Liver Detox forumula.

Oops, gotta get off the computer now...

[bjgnome]

Originally Posted by Popps

Vitamin B-17 is found in most fruit seeds. Its components make it vital for our survival without cancer. Seeds are for everyone to eat. Don't wait and see if you develop cancer to start eating the seeds.
Vitamin B17 is found in seeds such as the apple, peach, cherry, grapes, and apricot. It is found in some beans and many grasses such as wheat grass. The hard wooden pit in the middle of the apricot or peach for example, is not supposed to be thrown away. In fact, the wooden shell is actually a strong armor protecting one of the most important foods known to man, the seed. It is one of the main courses of food in cultures such as the Navajo Indians, the Hunzakuts, the Abkhazians and many more. Cultures such as these have never had a reported case of cancer when eating their traditional foods!

Saw a presentation today at a Qi Gong seminar along similar lines. The teacher puts the whole fruits or vegetables into a 3 horsepower blender, seeds and all and drinks 'em. Not just apples or such. Avocados including the seed. Supposedly, the avocado seed has more soluble fiber than any other food on earth. The soluble fiber is the stuff that cleans your arteries and purifies your blood. He is opposed to fruit juices, one must eat the whole food. Supposedly, with this method tens of thousands of people have reversed cancer, diabetes, heart disease & autism.

BTW, William C. the margarine is totally carcinogenic. Replace with real butter, flax oil or extra virgin coconut oil ASAP. Hang in there, we are totally with you.

[WilliamC]

Got rid of the margarine today, but our next door neighbors made us lunch so I had a hamburger. Otherwise I'm doing pretty good sticking to juices and vegetables.

I have a couple of friends coming into town to visit me for two days. This will be my first visit from family/friends since I was diagnosed. Alas I think I am coming down with the flu or something damn the luck.

My oldest son was out from school Wednesday through Friday with the Flu, or possible just a bad cold. He had a high fever for three nights and is still snuffling and coughing. My wife had it last weekend and she had to take Monday off.

Here I was hoping I would avoid it but yesterday I started feeling weak and today I'm a running a bit of a fever. So I'll not be able to do much with my friends 'cause I certainly don't want to get them sick.

Other than that I'm feeling better. I'm still having frequent BMs but they are largely productive and I haven't had to take any stool softener for a while. The Pau-D'Arco tea really makes me have to wee, comes on strong and sudden, and for the longest time whenever I wee I also have to take care of other business too. That seems to be getting better at least over the last couple days.

Right now I'm sipping a beet/wheat grass/carrot/apple/lemon juice concoction which doesn't entirely suck. It's amazing that something that looks so foul actually doesn't taste half bad.

There are a few posts I want to respond to in more detail but I haven't had the time. Thanks to all for your concern/advice.

Oh yes, HAVE YOU SEEN THE PRICE OF GOLD LATELY!

Whoop whoop, wish I had more. If ever we get a price pull-back and I can get another Krug for ~1K I'm jumping on it.

[BeeYourself]

Thanks for the apricot seed tip. Will pick some up next trip tot he HFS.

[skilsaw]

Originally Posted by WilliamC

Ordered several herbal supplements today.

From www.herbdoc.com I ordered their liver-gall bladder detox formula, the kidney-blood detox formula, and a bottle of the superfood plus tablets I mentioned above. Total cost with shipping $106.50.

From www.pau-d-arco.com I ordered 1 lb of their lapaucho tea (thanks to Skilsaw for bringing this to my attention!). Total cost $25.

I figure to try these and see how I react. If there is not much noticeable difference in a couple weeks then I'm out ~$125 and will be much more skeptical of other herbal remedies. If I get noticeable or better effects then I will add a few more supplements. I can't rightly say I believe in 'miracle cures' but I am open minded enough to try therapies that are not part of typical Western medicine.

My juicer shipped today, should be delivered by the end of the week. At which time I'll head up to the nearest Whole Foods Market and buy some organic fruits and vegetables. While there I'll start inquiring about how to make the transition to a whole food diet. No matter what happens with the herbal supplements I will be sticking to a more wholesome diet from here on out.

Best case scenario, when I have my surgery in December I'll be a month or more into these changes and they will have worked well enough so there is no detectable tumor left for the doctor to remove. If so I'll become completely sold on the idea of herbal/holistic healing and will start pushing my family to change their diets as well.

That's what I'm aiming at at any rate!

Of course if none of this works and I'm chock-full-of cancer then I'll just resign myself to an eternal diet of and know that for me is my new reality.

Glad you're open-minded and proactive here. Just hope for the best, but don't get discouraged if you don't get instant gratification, either. Healing can be an unpredictable process. A lot of the stuff works somewhat or some of the time for some people. Some may get cured "miraculously" from it, others not. I'm not sure ANYTHING (allopathic or holistic) works 100% of the time for 100% of the people.

I had a coworker whose mom cured her cancer using the Hoxsey Formula (now only available in Tijuana). That may be worth stacking too, if you can order some here. You just have to keep looking and trying to see what works for YOU and your particular case.

BTW, tomorrow morning from 10-11AM CST, there will be a call-in interview here with Dr Andrew W. Saul, the author of "

I Have Cancer: What Should I Do?: Your Orthomolecular Guide for Cancer Management

Amazon

." Might be an interesting show to tune into.

Now, herbal supplements do provide good support, but sometimes you may have to go deeper with more powerful modalities.

You may want to find a good energetic or "psycho-energetic" healer who can clear any underlying root issues to your cancer and help with energetic/emotional detoxing. Many of these healers can even do healings remotely over the phone (I know, sounds crazy, but...) Or learn some qigong yourself and practice it daily - but that takes more personal effort.

Another possible culprit is oral health. How are your teeth? Any root canals or cavities?

Well, Dr. Robert H. Dowling claims to have discovered how neurotoxins from oral infections can cause cancer. He has now devised a protocol to detect these subclinical infections before they cause cancer...or to destroy cancerous tumors through ablation (a technique where a needle is placed into a tumor and is destroyed using extreme temperature).

The Tennessee dentist had already corrected the cavitations by the time Goldson returned to Ohio for the second ablation, a nearly painless procedure that utilizes radio frequency waves to kill a cancer tumor in 15 minutes without surgery, radiation, or chemo. It's considered an out- patient procedure.

It took place in September 2006. "We left there. We were very happy. We came home," said Goldson.

"All of us have cancer cells in our body, and we all have tumor suppressant genes," Hughes explained. "Neurotoxic waste by- products from hidden bacteria in the mouth inhibit these tumor suppressant genes. In other words, the toxins keep the genes from doing their job. That's the trigger for cancer. That's the genetic connection to cancer."

So, you may also want to get any dental problems fixed up. Or get a thermal scan to see if you have any hotspots.



So, I would stack up on all the herbal supplements in this thread.

Then try some energetic healing.

And look into Bob Dowling's research.

Energize, disinfect and detox. Keep looking, trying and don't give up!

[WilliamC]

Well what do you know?

I'm back from spending time with my friends and I feel better than I did before I left.

Whatever cold was coming on me has at least been stalled.

Let's see if it's gone in the morning...

[BeeYourself]

You wont get sick following all this stuff here. Everyone around you will though.

[WilliamC]

Originally Posted by BeeYourself

You wont get sick following all this stuff here. Everyone around you will though.

Still managing to stave off this cold.

I've been able to spend some time with my friends from out-of-town Sunday night and yesterday, had them over for dinner last night so they got to meet my family.

Ended up staying out a bit late and letting myself get run down, but they're headed back today and it was worth it to visit with them.

Today my 4 year old is home with a high fever, so he's got what my wife and oldest son had last week. Now I'll be staying home and taking care of him.

I still feel like I'm coming down with something, especially at night.

But a percocet and two aspirin have been knocking down any symptoms I have during the day and it hasn't progressed to full-blown sickness.

Now I just need to rest up a couple of days and get rid of whatever virus is trying to infect me so I can get back out to the whole food store and get some more produce for juicing.

Today I'll order some apricot seeds and some B-17, so I'll add that to the mix of herbs/supplements I'm taking.

But overall I'm feeling much better and my system is starting to return to normal. It's not back to what I consider being regular but I've had more normal bathroom habits over the last few days than I've had in months.

Something good is going on inside of me and letting things happen in a more natural way, so I'm full-speed ahead on continuing to change my diet and work on my supplements.

Cancer cure, here I come!

[skilsaw]

Just throwing out another random blurb here...

It's alleged that the meditation and fasting technique taught by Master Tao can cure cancer within 7-10 days. Lol, well I'm guessing that's just a miraculous, best-case scenario (and not the average)...but it could still be of some benefit even if it didn't quite live up to such hype.

On May the 4th this year, two tumours were found in my right ovary during a regular check up. The doctor told me that they must be removed, cancerous or not, and recommended seeing a specialist. I know that it must be done so through surgery and that was something I hated most. I was very calm because I still remember reading Master Tao’s diary on Daoyin Therapy. One chapter was about “Cancer”. I believed that Daoyin Therapy could cure me so I got in touch with Master Tao. On June the 14th, Master Tao saw me and told me to keep on practicing Daoyin Therapy. He also told me another Gong “Holding the Sky & Pulling the Elbow”. After a week of practice, my period came. On June the 23rd, I went to see Master Tao again and he advised me to practice both Fasting and Qi Gong. I did fasting 3 times, 7 days each, 3 times of Qi Gong per day. I also participated in 4 sessions of Qi Gong classes conducted by Master Tao. On September the 8th, Master Tao told me that the tumours were gone but advised me to keep on practising Qi Gong. I kept on working for 10 hours a day while fasting and my weight dropped from 64kg to 49kg. My whole body felt light. I would like to hereby say thank you to Master Tao for your healing of my sickness.

Lisa, 20/09/2007

Only problem is that he's in Australia. But, maybe you could find something similar where you are...

Here's another one, Stateside:

Debbie, 45, was among them. She said last year she was diagnosed with colon cancer that had spread to her liver. She said she is being helped by the methods. "I feel so good when I leave, and pain free."

He claims ki helped his then 7-year old daughter heal from a recurring malignant brain tumor.

"It fixes it in, any people," he claims of ki and it's impact on cancer.

[Jellylegs]

Originally Posted by Waylon

Still, I have never felt better about our little world or the people in it than when I was going thru treatment. I suppose it is because I realized what little difference it would make to anything whether I survived or not. I viewed folks better and if they did not view me the same ... well, I really didn't have the time to bother with them anyway.

I feel fortunate simply to still be here. I have a deeper understanding to how it all ends ... for everyone. Most folks don't. Some actually feel like life is a game they can win. Hah!

Way to go Waylon. Very well said. You soon find out who matter & who doesn't when life changes appear & you see everything through very different eyes. Surprising laughter comes from many situations & experiences you find yourself in when presented with challenging life experiences.
Having or developing a sunny disposition when dealt with these cards is a good thing to have. Keep well.

[Jellylegs]

William glad to hear you are not being defeatist in your current challenging experience. My Nan remained here for over 18 years following bowel cancer despite at times giving her no chance of survival at times. Following treatment & surgery she went on camping holidays etc & used to keep the medical staff entertained with her humor & baking them cakes on her hospital visits. The Doctors used to love being on duty when she came in for appointments & sent a lovely letter to my Grandad when she finally did pass of the joy she brought THEM. Life is what you make it & we are all on borrowed time, it's just some of us get a flash of it before others.

One time she had just had surgery & said she had to be out real quick. The doctors asked, "why what's the rush?" She said she was going on holiday to France in a week. The doctors looked confounded saying, "but you've just had major surgery."
She said, "yes but I still have wrinkles on my face you can't cure that, but I can."
Doctor looked puzzled & said, "How can you do that?"
She said, "Well I go topless & all the wrinkles drop from my face"
It still makes me laugh today when I think about it.

I found a recipe some years back that I made up for a friend who was having radiotherapy for cancer & she ended up having nothing other than this as she couldn't bear other foods until the day she passed. You may like to try it.

Firstly you will have to get some hulled pumpkin seeds, sesame seeds & sunflower seeds. Put some in a grinder about 2 desert spoonfuls pumpkin & sunflower & 1 of sesame seeds & grind until they are fine. You can make larger quantities so you have some done & store a batch if you so wish.

Then chop a banana up & put into a liquidiser & add 1 -2 desert spoonfuls of ground seeds (or to your own taste), then add some milk & yogurt (I used ice cream as I didn't like yoghurt so adapted it). Then blend so you get a natural healthy milk shake but is substantial enough as a meal on its own or as a snack. It can be made in batches of bigger quantities & stored in the fridge for a few days if you require.

Enjoy.

[NotTheOne]

I friend of mine was diagnosed with a brain cancer about 7 years ago. She underwent surgery and then went here --> http://www.kushiinstitute.org/

She is still alive today. It's an interesting place to say the least. The diet in mostly seeds. Yes, seeds. You feel like a bird after awhile. The meals were mainly tasteless but apparently nutritional. She lost a lot of weight in the process. It's not for everyone, but the concept is macrobiotics. Maybe worth looking into for your diet.

[WilliamC]

Again thanks to all for the continuing suggestions, advice, and encouragement.

Spent another day at home with my 4 year old son who still was running a fever and couldn't go to pre-school.

I've managed to avoid coming down with a full-fledged cold or flu and am pretty much over the symptoms I was having.

Some of the herbal supplements and juicing must be doing some good as my primary complaints are greatly alleviated; not completely gone but increasingly better. I haven't had to take a percocet for pain since yesterday morning, and I'm starting to do some light calisthenics and stretching.

I haven't ordered the apricot seeds or B-17 yet, but I did order 3 additional herbal tonics from Dr. Schulze's American Botanical Pharmacy. My bathroom habits are normal enough that I went ahead and got the Intestinal Formula #2, and I decided to add their Detox Formula, and their Echinacea Formula for good measure. Together with what I already ordered this seems to give me the basics of their 'Incurables' program.

There is still so much for me to learn, but as I continue to do so I'm convinced that obtaining a much better nutritional lifestyle is the only real secret to good health, and I am starting to fear that I am becoming one of these health nuts that I always used to think were over-reacting to all the negative facts about the American food supply and the normal American diet. Now I'm really starting to worry about how my family currently eats and what I can do to change my children's dietary habits so they don't end up burned out and sick at 45 years old like their father.

Nothing like having cancer to make me sit up and take notice as to what I'm doing with myself and my life I guess.

Time for one more juice then an early for me.

[Dick]

Originally Posted by skilsaw

Just throwing out another random blurb here...

It's alleged that the meditation and fasting technique taught by Master Tao can cure cancer within 7-10 days. Lol, well I'm guessing that's just a miraculous, best-case scenario (and not the average)...but it could still be of some benefit even if it didn't quite live up to such hype.Only problem is that he's in Australia. But, maybe you could find something similar where you are...

Here's another one, Stateside:

The only people dieing from cancer in the U.S. that I know, are the ones being treated. It is designed to make money. Just a long term observation.

[skilsaw]

Originally Posted by Dick

The only people dieing from cancer in the U.S. that I know, are the ones being treated. It is designed to make money. Just a long term observation.

Well, I don't know all the stats of how allopathic vs holistic care really compare. I don't think stats like that are even accurately kept - and those categories are really too broad, anyways. Obviously, I'm personally a big fan of holistic (from "New Agey" to scientific) medicine - and have seen some really impressive results from it. However, "holistic" is a huge umbrella that covers a wide scale ranging from weaker to far more powerful therapies. Some flaky, others far more proven.

Overall though, they tend to be more natural with less downsides. The main downside usually being the wasted time & money if they don't work. Which, could sometimes be a risk if the issue is time-sensitive.

So, I think it's still good to keep all your options on the table. Just do your homework, follow your intuition with common sense and try to make the best choices out there... See what's actually worked or not for other real people.

Now here's a really interesting article, complete with many photos, of the "endotoxins leeching from dental infections" cutting-edge theory of disease (including cancer, heart disease and many other ones). Root canals can supposedly be really problematic, since they can basically trap in infections. Oral hygiene is apparently one key to maintaining good overall health.

Again, you might getting a thermal scan to check for any hotspots indicating inflammation/infection sites. I think they're non-invasive and pretty cheap too.

[Dick]

Originally Posted by skilsaw

Overall though, they tend to be more natural with less downsides. The main downside usually being the wasted time & money if they don't work. Which, could sometimes be a risk if the issue is time-sensitive.

What is the cost of the "wasted time & cost" when the mainstream can't fix them either? Cheaper no doubt.

[skilsaw]

^ Well, I'm just saying it's always worth considering all the options on an option-by-option basis. Just keep open-minded and non-dogmatic. And also research any side effects or interactions with natural supplements too.

Oh, here's another herb you may want to add to your stack - turmeric. You can buy it in bulk in your health foods section for like $5/lb. It is currently being studied for anti-cancer potential.

There has been a great deal of research on turmeric's anti-cancer potential, but results are still very early. Evidence from test tube and animal studies suggests that curcumin may help prevent, control, or kill several types of cancers, including prostate, breast, skin, and colon. Curcumin's effects may be due to its ability to stop the blood vessels that supply cancerous tumors from growing, and its preventive effects may come from its strength as an antioxidant, protecting cells from damage. More research is needed, however, as scientists aren't sure why or whether curcumin works in humans to prevent or treat cancer. Cancer should be treated with conventional medications; never rely on alternative therapies alone to treat cancer.

Laboratory studies have also shown that curcumin interferes with several important molecular pathways involved in cancer development, growth, and spread.

Researchers are studying curcumin to learn whether it is an effective anti-inflammatory agent and whether it holds any promise for cancer prevention or treatment. A number of studies of curcumin have shown promising results. Curcumin can kill cancer cells in laboratory dishes and also reduces growth of surviving cells. Curcumin also has been found to reduce development of several forms of cancer in laboratory animals and to shrink animal tumors.

Human studies of curcumin in cancer prevention and treatment are in the very early stages. One study of 15 patients with colorectal cancer was done to find out how much curcumin they could safely take, and whether they could take a dose large enough to be detected in the blood. The patients were able to take 3.6 grams of curcumin without noting ill effects. At this high dose, some curcumin and its products were found in the blood. Lower doses may work for the stomach and intestine. Even though it does not absorb well into the body, it has been shown to absorb into the colon lining and into any cancerous tissue in the colon. The researchers recommended that the high dose be used when curcumin is tested for effects outside the intestine. Other small studies have found people were able to take up to 10 grams per day for a period of a few weeks without noting problems. Some researchers are currently working on ways to increase absorption of curcumin by combining it with other substances. Further clinical trials are needed to find out what role, if any, turmeric and curcumin may play in the prevention or treatment of cancer.

A recent safety study in humans suggested that curcumin changes metabolism of oxalate, a substance that can form kidney stones. The researchers urged caution in use of this supplement by people with other conditions that make them susceptible to kidney stones.

Antioxidant supplements can interfere with the effectiveness of chemotherapy or radiation treatment.

BTW, be sure to chew or crush any hard vitamin or supplement tablets you may be taking. Otherwise, many will simply pass through you largely undigested and you'll be lucky if you absorb 20% of their nutrients.

[bjgnome]

Originally Posted by NotTheOne

I friend of mine was diagnosed with a brain cancer about 7 years ago. She underwent surgery and then went here --> http://www.kushiinstitute.org/

She is still alive today. It's an interesting place to say the least. The diet in mostly seeds. Yes, seeds. You feel like a bird after awhile. The meals were mainly tasteless but apparently nutritional. She lost a lot of weight in the process. It's not for everyone, but the concept is macrobiotics. Maybe worth looking into for your diet.

My wife studied macrobiotics for years, though not with Kushi Institute. She thinks Kushi's food is bland. Not all macrobiotic food is tasteless. Her cooking is excellent. I have heard of quite a few people curing themselves of cancer using the macriobiotic diet. We do not eat purely macriobiotic, but a good percentage of our meals are.

[milehi]

I had testicular cancer 11 years ago in my late twenties. It sucked. Since then I've always eaten an alkaline diet and try to keep my ph around 7.5-8. I can't even remember the last time I had a cold. I ride and race bikes, so daily exercise is also part of the program. I juice daily, but don't have a fancy juicer. Just a bottom of the line Jack Lalanne. I've been using it everyday for years and it wont die, but when it does, I'll get something top shelf.

Here's my homeade V8 juice from homegrown veggies or from the farmer's market.

One tomato, chunk of cucummber, small beet, clove of garlic, celery stalk, juice from one lemon, radish, hot pepper of some sort.

I also juice apple, watermelon, ginger.

When I was sick, I used visuization. I would close my eyes and watch the cancer leaving my body like a whirlpool draining away. Also, the power of positive thinking-but it looks like you have that covered

[WilliamC]

Well today it's my 3 year old daughter who is out sick so I get to take care of her.

That's the entire family now who has come down with either a mild case of the flu or a very bad cold. I seem to have avoided the worst of it thankfully.

Yesterday I was able to drive up to Memphis and get my fruits and vegetables for juicing and some flax seed oil capsules, so I'm set for a while. Still need to get my total calories up as I am down to 132 lbs on my 6' frame. I'm thinner than I've ever been in my life.

But I'm feeling better and my systems are working better. Even my hemorrhoids are almost completely gone which is a great relief.

Now my primary problems are that I become easily fatigued and I'm not sleeping through the night, I wake up 4-5 times and am probably not getting enough REM sleep. I get very frustrated and irritated at myself because I don't have the energy to do very much, even trying to keep up with the housework is tiring.

Oh, and the wife's minivan needs to have the transmission rebuilt. There goes another $2,500 from our rapidly dwindling emergency fund and we are limited to my dinky Saturn which can't even fit all 5 members of our family at the same time until next Monday or Tuesday.

And I still haven't made it to the Dentist to get my cracked tooth fixed, probably won't be able to do that now until after Thanksgiving.

But I feel I'm making a recovery and will continue to do so, albeit slower than I would like. Oh to be rich enough to take a month or two off to go to some retreat or clinic where I could do nothing but focus on my health and diet and exercise and such under the guidance of people who have experience treating cancer. But that's not possible so I'm making it up as I go.

With a good bit of help from ya'll here at GIM of course!

[skilsaw]

Here's a Chinese herbal mix you could also add to your stack:

JBNI's 100 Percent Herbal Bioprin Formula Demonstrates High Anti-cancer Tumor Efficacy at Dana Farber Cancer Institute / Harvard Medical School

Dana Farber Cancer Institute / Harvard Medical School report shows that the anti-tumor efficacy of Bioprin exceeds selected chemotherapeutic agents. The DFCI/HMS report further states that Bioprin's formula is comparable to the effectiveness of radiation therapy. Most surprising is the all-herbal 100% natural formula's (originally intended for relaxation and comfort) TGD score when used in addition to chemo and radio therapies.

Canyon Park, WA (PRWEB) July 31, 2008 -- The following press release is provided to Cancer researchers only and is to be used only as data for scientific research purposes.

JBNI today released a Dana-Farber Cancer Institute / Harvard Medical School (DFCI/HMS) anti-tumor activity report regarding Formula 15.3 (Bioprin) by Dr. Beverly A. Teicher's and her team. The report entitled, "Efficacy of orally administered herb preparations against the EMT-6/Parent Tumor," clinically documents the effect of JBNI's all-herbal formula on the "equivalent to human metastatic breast cancer." The report illustrates the potential of naturally occurring herbs for use in clinical / medical applications.

In the summary by Dr. Marianne Spada, Ph.D., the doctor notes that, "JJ-15.3 shows at the dose of 500mg/kg a TGD of 4.15 plus or minus 0.53, which is much more potent than (common chemotherapeutic agents) Melpahlan (2.3tgd) or Carmustine (2.5tgd), and comparable to radiotherapy or Cysplatin in treatment of metastatic cancer." Dr. Spada goes on to project, "With higher dose and more frequency than current testing (14 days dose), we might observe much greater TGD than current result even with the current level of herbal concentration."

A full test result spread sheet was also just released. It is entitled, "Tumor growth delay of Herbal Mixture JJ-15.3 in the EMT-6 Murine Marrary Carcinoma at 500mm cubed." In it, the total anti-tumor effect when supporting x-ray radiation therapy (1 wk at 300 rads = 4.3tgd) with JBNI's Formula 15.3 is shown to be 5.15tgd plus or minus 0.61.

When asked about the aggressive nature of 15.3's effect on cancer cells and potential safety issues, JBNI Investor Relations Manager, Ken Case quoted Dr. Teicher's report saying, "Formula 15.3 has already been on the market as Bioprin for about 15 years as a relaxant and herbal formula for comfort and ease. It is totally herbal, pesticide free, and 100% natural. Besides, the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute / Harvard document clearly says,'There are no signs of toxicity with this herbal mixture.'"

Calling Formula 15.3 a, "remarkable compound," Dr. Teicher's report expresses a desire for further study, "to observe how related organs are responding to delay tumor growth so powerfully without any harm as we see in the current testing."

The DFCI/HMS report concludes, "Different stages of tumor, tumor preventive tests and other types of metastatic cencer should be further studied with this remarkable compound."

Inspite of the above findings on Bioprin's all natural formula that uses strictly pesticide free herbal ingredients, JBNI strictly advises against using Bioprin outside of the care of a Board Certified Physician. A JBNI PR representative, Azim Walli states, "anti-tumor efficacy, even under proven invivo conditions, cannot replace the expertise and experience of a trained cancer specialist's supervision of time tested FDA approved drugs."

Official copies of the DFCI/HMS document may be requested from JBNI Inc. located in the biotech community of Canyon Park, Wa.

You can buy 90 caps/$40 here (amongst a few other sources).

[nub]

WilliamC

You hang in there and fight it all the way, I had 4 of my family members end up with some type of cancer, be it lung, oral, non-hodgkins lympoma,or breast cancer. The ones with the better attitude like you! and who started taking control and fighting it have done very well, breast cancer, non hodgkins, and oral are still going strong, after the radiation, chemo and surgery over 25 yrs for the oral and breast and I think the person that had the non hodgkins she has been in remission for 30 yrs now, unbelievable and she is in her 80's now. They all changed their diet, did the juicing while in treatment and after took up exercise, walking mostly ....except my aunt who has smoked 4 packs a day for 30 yrs. or so, she never did quit even while going thru treatment, needless to say she did pass.
So you keep fighting and I will pray for you and your family. Hang in there!

[WilliamC]

Originally Posted by nub

WilliamC

You hang in there and fight it all the way, I had 4 of my family members end up with some type of cancer, be it lung, oral, non-hodgkins lympoma,or breast cancer. The ones with the better attitude like you! and who started taking control and fighting it have done very well, breast cancer, non hodgkins, and oral are still going strong, after the radiation, chemo and surgery over 25 yrs for the oral and breast and I think the person that had the non hodgkins she has been in remission for 30 yrs now, unbelievable and she is in her 80's now. They all changed their diet, did the juicing while in treatment and after took up exercise, walking mostly ....except my aunt who has smoked 4 packs a day for 30 yrs. or so, she never did quit even while going thru treatment, needless to say she did pass.
So you keep fighting and I will pray for you and your family. Hang in there!

Thank you so much for your thoughts and encouragement, it means the world to me!

The greatest fear I have had through this entire ordeal is that I would die and leave my wife and children alone. I am choked up right now thinking of you and your daughter but based on what you have graciously shared with us I know you are doing as well as possible during this time of your own grief.

The examples of your loved ones who have survived 25+ years after their cancer are what I like to hear. I plan on being one of those 70-80 year old grandpa's who likes to bore everyone around him with the story about "how I had cancer back in '09 when I was just a youngster at 45".

Take care and know you have the warm thoughts and prayers of hundreds here at GIM!

[bjgnome]

Originally Posted by skilsaw

Here's a Chinese herbal mix you could also add to your stack:You can buy 90 caps/$40 here (amongst a few other sources).

Very interesting. Here's the manufacturer's website:
http://www.jbni.us/products.html

[skilsaw]

Originally Posted by WilliamC

Now my primary problems are that I become easily fatigued and I'm not sleeping through the night, I wake up 4-5 times and am probably not getting enough REM sleep. I get very frustrated and irritated at myself because I don't have the energy to do very much, even trying to keep up with the housework is tiring.

Remember, you need complete darkness at night to stimulate production of melatonin - which fights tumors as well as makes you sleepy. So cut all room light out, put a pillow over your eyes and/or wear an eyemask.

Oh, I had forgotten about Kelley Eidem's dirt-cheap "2 week stage 4 cancer cure!" In short:

1) Grate one habaneros pepper each day, putting it on bread

2) Grate two cloves of garlic each day, putting them on bread

3) 1-2 Tablespoons of Emulsified cod liver oil each day.* TwinLabs makes some wonderfully flavored cod liver oil.

I used the cod liver oil because I was not losing any weight or dealing with fluid retention. If I had either of those conditions, I would have used evening primrose oil instead of the emulsified cod liver oil.

4) Smother the grated garlic and habaneros peppers with real butter and eat it. No margarines of any type, including Smart Balance, etc.

Now, seems like some simple or odd ingredients... However, note that:

researchers at UCLA garnered lots of headlines two years ago because they had done something pretty incredible.

What had the UCLA researchers done? They shrank tumors by 80% with the heat from habaneros peppers.

ginger cause cancer cell death, it also makes the cancer cells turn on themselves.

Of 37 studies done to examine garlic's effectiveness as a cancer inhibitor, 28 were successful. Preliminary studies show an increased cancer inhibiting effect on prostate cancer and stomach cancer.

Cod liver oil contains large amounts of natural vitamin D3 (not synthetic vitamin D2) Vitamin D3 is an absolute requirement for the utilization of calcium by the body. When sunlight shines on your skin, it reacts with cholesterol inside and on the surface of the skin to produce vitamin D.

This chemical reaction in the skin is induced by the ultraviolet radiation of sunlight; this is called photosynthesis. The main function of vitamin D3 is to facilitate utilization of calcium at the cell. Without vitamin D3, the calcium cannot be utilized. Vitamin D3 plays a vital role in use of calcium and therefore, the metabolism of the whole body.

Weston Price established the importance of the MK-4 isoform of vitamin K2 (hereafter, K2) with a series of interesting experiments. He showed in chickens that blood levels of calcium and phosphorus depended both on vitamin A and K2, and that the two had synergistic effects on mineral absorption. He also showed that chickens preferred eating butter that was rich in K2 over butter low in K2, even when the investigators couldn't distinguish between them. Young turkeys fed K2-containing butter oil along with cod liver oil (A and D) also grew at a much faster rate than turkeys fed cod liver oil alone.

He hypothesized that vitamin A, vitamin D and vitamin K2 were synergistic and essential for proper growth and subsequent health. He particularly felt that the combination was important for proper mineral absorption and metabolism. He used a combination of high-vitamin cod liver oil and high-vitamin butter oil to heal cavities, reduce oral bacteria counts, and cure numerous other afflictions in his patients.

So, basically this remedy combines the "heat" of habaneros & garlic with the synergistic effect of vitamins D3 & K2. Note that this latter combo (plus vitamin A) helps to reduce oral bacteria...which has already been fingered as one possible "root cause" of cancer here. So, don't also forget to floss well and maybe get a Sonicare toothbrush (need to do that myself, too!).

[WilliamC]

Thanks skilsaw, you've pulled out an enormous amount of good information for me!

I'll be ordering one or two more supplements today, probably the apricot seeds and B17 from here and the bioprin from here .

Money is starting to get tight this month, but I'm more than willing to spend just a few hundred dollars on supplements that at least offer a chance of helping me kill the remaining cancer cells still in me.