Who are the illuminati ? exposed in the CNN Kosovo Board, March 24, 1999, minutes...

[MattMarriott]

The antichrist (total evil) :

The same people that control the banks, insurance companies, big factories, big real estate.
The same people that control all the mass media in the NATO countries.
The same people that control the major christian churches, including the Vatican, since John XXIII, except for a short month (1).
The same people that are organised as a secret society in a pyramid of secrecy grades. A secret society from which, after the first grades, there's no escape.
The same people that believe that their god (satan) created a few enlighened (they, the illuminati) and a mass of slaves, whose only purpose is to serve them until the day they decide they should be slaughtered.
The same people that saw the confirmation of the apocalyptic effects of the atomic bomb, in 1945, as the ultimate proof of their religion, the triumph of evil : the proof that evil was capable of destroying creation; in particular the proof that a few illuminati could destroy billions of sheeple in seconds.

The very same people that already before had seen the confirmation of their religion in the fact that they could use such simple means to control the sheeple so perfectly :
- total control of the mass media and schools;
- let the media, schools and major christian churches make people believe that there is no God (evolution theory, the most grotesque and sucessfull lie ever found);
- let the media, schools and "christian" leaders make people believe that "GOOD is BAD and BAD is GOOD". This tactic relies on two priorities : obscuring and inverting the line. Examples : it's not possible to trace a line between BAD and GOOD, everything is gray (2a); belief in God leads to a violent world (2b); creation can be improved (genetical engineering); human life is irrelevant (abortion); family is an obstacle to "individual freedom"; sense of life is to become God ("conquest of the universe" : moon landing hoax in 1969; "explanation of life" (new "discoveries" to "update" evolution theory) and "explanation of the universe" (Big Bang, UFO hoax, etc) (3).
- let the media and schools make people believe that they have the right of choice (2c).

The illuminati leaders realised and agreed in 1986, in one of their secret meetings, that the system could only survive at most another 20 years (end of non-renewable resources, demographics, ethnic distribution).
That day they decided that mankind should be reduced to a maximum of 2 million slaves the latest until 2005.
The main tactic goal would be to gain control of Russia's nuclear arsenal and complete the task before any other country gained mutual assured destruction capabilities.

Since the tactic didn't include the survival of western societies in the middle run (beyond those 20 years), these were some other tactics used :
- increase to maximum intensity the brainwash agenda of the masses in the West, so that these could be reduced to zombies (total sheeple), incapble of reacting even at the sight of the doors of the slaugherhouse.
(4) Examples of how the brainwash agenda "GOOD is BAD and BAD is GOOD" was pushed to the utter limits : homosexual political leaders; gay adoption; pedophile "priests"; child pornography; sex slavery; legalised genocide of elder in hospitals and homes for elderly as "euthanasia"; generalised drugs addiction : pills, chemical food, marihuana, ecstasy, cocain, heroine, etc (5); genocide of believers.

- mass imigration of muslims to the West. One of the reasons was to use them as a weapon of terror against the natives, as some of these would start reacting, finally realising they were being transported to the slaugherhouse). Muslim leaders would keep these masses quiet, with the real prospect that in "a few years we will be the majority and will take the power". (6)

- maximum consumption of the last non-renewable resources during that period, to be able to keep productive system going on "normally" until the final showdown.

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message sent by Matt Marriott, to the CNN Kosovo Board, March 24, 1999 - a few minutes before the carpet bombing in Europe started again, after a pause of almost 54 years.
Notes :
1 - Vatican not included, because this would lead to immediate deletion of the message

2 - Mind control techniques of acceptance by association and refusal by dissociation intensively used.
a) - Example : I perceive Bush as evil. Bush says : there is GOOD and there is BAD. This will lead me to refuse that assertion (dissociation). Conclusions : I reject what Bush says; I'm convinced that everything is gray.
b) - Example : Bush presents himself and is presented by the media as a "christian fundamentalist"; Bush bombs the opposition to oblivion. Conclusions : belief in God leads to extremism; belief in God is incompatible with a peaceful world (dissociation).
c) - Example : media is telling me 24 hours a day that Kerry is the alternative to Bush and vice-versa.
If the starting point is my aversion to Bush (say, because of the Iraq war), even if I was originally a critic of "homosexual marriage", I will start accepting it, since it's part of Kerry's agenda (association).

3 - the best examples to illustrate how grotesque this path is now, is (besides the Photoshop creations of NASA of Mars Rovers, spaceships landing on asteroids or crashing in Jupiter ) the Rahelian cloning hoax, that the "serious" media has been regularly bringing into headlines ...

4 - list extended with current examples.

5 - muslims massively used to secure production and supply routes (Balkans - Kosovo; Afghanistan 2.5 years later).

6 - this is the reason why there were no muslim terror attacks in the West.
Only total brainwash and the basic "BIG LIE technique" mechanisms ("the truth is too horrible to dig in") can prevent people from seeing that 9/11 was a Reichstag operation executed by the illuminati.
The Madrid bombings, March 11, 2004 is not as obvious, it was also planned as a Reichstag operation.
Check the REAL story here :
... (link later)

[Midas Banned]

In the building, and expanding of TPTB network to meet the growing world it has been necessary to create a number of 'secret societies' to cover 'leadership' at various levels.

These societies permit rigorous vetting of members, and gives them a sense of belonging, and purpose - it binds the 'brotherhood' with rules of behaviour and what is demanded. It also facilitates the flow of directives from ' the High Command. Some are open to all ethnic groups, and nationalities, others are closed - especially at the very top.

They also help to diffuse attention from who are the real PTB. If feeds the sheeples penchant for seeing things only in small bits.


The real terrorism is within (government sponsored) not without. If real terrorists wanted to strike the US or the UK in order to create considerable upheaval, they could do it with a box of matches. The box of matches is also metaphorical for the use of everyday insignificant items that can go undetected, and easily explained if searched.

I am sure Rambo would show you how it could be done, if you doubt.

If any real terrorist organisation had committed 9/11 they would have shouted it from the roof tops - and believe me, you would have had more by now. People who pull those sort of stunts are no amateurs and have an extremely sophisticated network behind them.

They would also have known the effect of their cause, and unless they had a follow up in place, and the means of counteracting the reaction, what would have been the purpose?

[Midas Banned]

The box of matches is also metaphorical for the use of everyday insignificant items that can go undetected, and easily explained if searched.

Just corrected my post above. I had put rhetorical instead of metaphorical.

[MattMarriott]

7 - The illuminati script for Goebbels was designed to lead sheeple into accepting to be cannon fodder.
Not too different from their script before World War I ("breakfast in Paris").
The illuminait propaganda today is designed very differently, since inflamatory military speeches don't fit the current brainwash agenda (generalised drugs addiction, etc, see above) and the current military situation (World War III is not about Verdun or Iwojima, it's about bombing to oblivion civilians, in order to deploy nuclear weapons before the seven seconds final showdown).
That's why the one of the main roles of thousands of journalists in the illuminati payroll is to make people believe that "Kerry is the alternative to Bush and vice-versa".
This time the goal is to keep the sheeple quiet untilt they are slaughtered, not to actively use them as cannon fodder.

[Midas Banned]

There is just one point I have noticed that I would question in this rehashed thread. and that is

let the media, schools and major christian churches make people believe that there is no God (evolution theory, the most grotesque and successful lie ever found);

I don't think Darwin's evolution theory negated the idea of 'a God' only the Christian's acceptance, and portrayal, of 'God'. Even many scientists accept that some form of 'Universal intelligence' could be behind the whole of creation. But to personify it makes it easy to dish up to the average mind.

I now make it a habit of asking, in a quiet serious manner, any deeply Christian person I meet, and who I know also has an Academic background that would enable the person to think with sound reason and logic, how they actually perceive God, that is how they 'picture' God whenever they voice, or hear, the word.

In EVERY case so far, I have received the same reaction. They pause, then they try to say that they don't really think about it that way. This I know to be false. (If you don't agree try to think of ANY noun, or have someone say to you one, and try to avoid a picture leaping in your mind, that the noun conveys.

After a couple of seconds or so, I move on to something else as I do not like to linger over their embarrassment of trying to come up with an answer that defies their logical mind, and doesn't compromise their Christian beliefs, which is difficult (impossible?) for one steeped in Christianity as it is preached, yet, otherwise, academically bright.

I know how I see 'God' and it is not as a person walking around somwhere 'up there' with an all seeing eye, and an all hearing ear, in His head. looking something like an Italian classical artist's, brush on canvas, portrayal of the deity. And I accept Darwin's theory.

[MattMarriott]

Originally Posted by Midas

I don't think Darwin's evolution theory negated the idea of 'a God' only the Christian's acceptance, and portrayal, of 'God'.

There are only two base types for theories explaining the origins of the current forms of life :
- God (definition : creator of all forms of life)
- accident (aka chance)

Each theory is either only of type "only God", "only accident" or a hybrid theory upon those two.
Evolution theory as taught in schools, from Darwin to its current form, is obviously not a "God" type theory.
And it is also NOT a hybrid theory.
I will start a thread exposing the grotesque lies of evolution theory, may God will, but I would not like to discuss that further in the scope of this thread.

[Midas Banned]

Yes, you do that, and you will tie yourself into into an inextricble knot, You have almost blown yourself up in that short post, but I will let it go. However, I will leave it for you to open that thread. I am sure one or two others would be waiting to jump in.

Just one question before we go further, Which came first, the hen or the egg?
Stupid and silly though it might be, it is relevant

Another point to ponder (I am giving away clues here) the world's courts have
have had many a long drawn out battle (good for lawyers bank accounts) when trying to determine something, even of a more trivial matter was attributable to an an 'accident' or there was a predetermined cause.

And just one last one (I am trying to save you) How do you know that 'God'
or Universal Intelligence (as I see 'Him') is not aka 'Chance',or 'Cause'?

Anyway - Good luck

Originally Posted by Midas

Just one question before we go further, Which came first, the hen or the egg? Stupid and silly though it might be, it is relevant

The Bible is clear on this. The Hen.

Midas, please don't be so sure about something you can not prove either. Both beliefs, by definition, require faith.

"In fact, evolution became in a sense a scientific religion; almost all scientists have accepted it and many are prepared to `bend' their observations to fit in with it."—*H. Lipson, "A Physicist Looks at Evolution," Physics Bulletin, 31 (1980), p. 138.

"The hypothesis that life has developed from inorganic matter is, at present, still an article of faith."—*J.W.N. Sullivan, The Limitations of Science (1933), p. 95.

" Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution we do not have one iota of fact.' A tangled mishmash of guessing games and figure juggling [Tahmisian called it]."—*The Fresno Bee, August 20, 1959, p. 1-B [quoting T.N. Tahmisian, physiologist for the Atomic Energy Commission].

"Ultimately the Darwinian theory of evolution is no more nor less than the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century . . the origin of life and of new beings on earth is still largely as enigmatic as when Darwin set sail on the [ship] Beagle."—*Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (1986), p. 358.

"Unfortunately for Darwin's future reputation, his life was spent on the problem of evolution which is deductive by nature . . It is absurd to expect that many facts will not always be irreconcilable with any theory of evolution and, today, every one of his theories is contradicted by facts."—*P.T. Mora, The Dogma of Evolution, p. 194.

Sorry for the sidetracked discussion... carry on...

[MattMarriott]

Ukraine elections - Curtain falling on stage - no more need for actors like Soros ...
http://www.mindfully.org/WTO/2003/Ge...sman2jun03.htm

Colin Powell saying that there was fraud and he doesn't recognise the defeat of Yutschenko - the candidate (officially) financed by Soros, with a program of retreating immediately the ukrainian troops from Iraq ...
http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/s...ad.php?t=15137

[Midas Banned]

I picked this up from one website - American Patriot Friends Network [APFN] .

I can't personally vouch for the truth, but it appears someone has done some homework. I would say that there is more truth than fiction among the list. Probably more damning stuff that isn't there.

Anyway, treat it as you wish.


Enemies of all life on this rock!!
Sat Aug 7, 2004 10:32
146.82.212.56

Subject: Who Is Who, And To Whom They Sold Their Souls

Compiled By: Louis Turner

"The ancient Greeks built a wooden horse and the poor old Trojans couldn't overcome their curiosity. I'm gonna build a Golden Hammer, and see how many Socialists I can force into the slammer" - Louis Turner

George Bush - Skull & Bones, CFR, Trilateral Commission, Committee of 300, Illuminati , Skull & Bones

Bill Clinton - Bilderberger, Trilateral Commission, CFR

Saddam Hussein - 33° Freemason

King Hussein - 33° Freemason

Tony Blair - 33° Freemason

Gerhard Schroeder - 33° Freemason

Benjamin Netanyahu - 33° Freemason

Yasser Arafat - 33° Freemason

Ronald Reagan - 33° Freemason (on sight), Knights of Malta, Rosicrucian Order

Michail Gorbatjov - 33° Freemason

Helmut Kohl - Committee of 300

Shimon Peres - 33° Freemason

Francois Mitterand - 33° Freemason (Grand Orient Lodge)

Yitzak Rabin - 33° Freemason

Willy Brandt - Committee of 300

Gerald Ford (frm President USA) - 33° Freemason

Karl Marx - (Grand Orient Lodge)

Frederick Engels - (Grand Orient Lodge)

Franklin D. Roosevelt - (32 or 33° Freemason)

Sir Winston Churchill - 33° Freemason (but Resigned from the English Lodge!) Member of the Druid Order

Harry S. Truman - 33° Freemason

Neville Chamberlain - (Committee of 300)

Vladimir Lenin - Illuminati (Grand Orient Lodge)

Joseph Stalin - Illuminati (Grand Orient Lodge)

Leon Trotsky - (Grand Orient Lodge)

Henry Kissinger - (Committee of 300, P2 Freemasonry, Knights of Malta, Bilderberger)

J. Edgar Hoover - 33° Freemason

Cecil Rhodes - 33° Freemason

Aleister Crowley - Grandmaster Ordo Templi Orientis

Walt Disney - 33° Freemason

Olof Palme - Committee of 300, Bilderberger

Al Gore - 33º Freemason

Tony Blair - 33° Freemason, Bilderberger

Josef Mengele (Dr. Green) - Illuminati Implanter

Robert McNamara - 33° Freemason (at least)

Pehr G. Gyllenhammar (frm Volvo) - Committee of 300

Percy Barnevik (ABB Sweden) - Committee of 300

Col. James "Bo" Gritz - 33° Freemason

Billy Graham - 33° Freemason

John Glenn (33° Freemason)

Buzz Aldrin (33° Freemason)

Virgil I. Grissom (Freemason)

Edgar D. Mitchell (Freemason)

Plato (Illuminati)

Francis Bacon (Freemason, Rosicrucian Grand Master)

Lord David Owen - (Royal Institute of Int. Affairs, Committee of 300)

Lord Peter Carrington - (Committee of 300, Bilderberger)

Richard Holbrooke - (33° Freemason, Committee of 300)

Jimmy Carter - (Tril. Comm., CFR)

Carl Bildt - (Bilderberger)

David Rockefeller - Czar of the Illuminati

Edmund de Rothschild - Illuminati

Alan Greenspan - Federal reserve Bank (Committe of 300)

Peter Wallenberg - S-E Bank of Sweden (Committee of 300)

Queen Elisabeth II - Queen of the Committee of 300

Prince Phillip - 33° Freemason, Committee of 300

Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands - Committee of 300 (Bilderberger)

Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands - Committee of 300 (Bilderberger)

King Carl XVI Gustaf - (Bilderberger)

Prince Bertil - (Grande Orient Lodge of Freemasonry)

Illuminati Members
John Jacob Astor
McGeorge Bundy
Andrew Carnegie
Walter Freeman
W. Averell Harriman
Ted Kennedy
John D. Rockefeller Sr.
David Rockefeller
Lee Teng-hui
Baron Guy de Rothschild
Hillary Clinton - (6° Grand Dame)
Albert Pike - (founder of Ku Klux Klan)
Sam & Edgar Bronfman Jr. - (Seagram Whiskey)

ROCKEFELLERS:
David, Nelson, Winthrop, Laurence, John D. III

Lord J. Rothschild
Bertrand Russell (scientist)
Otto of Habsburg
George W. Bush Jr. - Illuminati , Skull & Bones
Irenee du Pont, Illuminati
Adam Weishaupt Founder of the Bavarian Illuminati

http://home.earthlink.net/~louis.turner/pandora.htm

The history of the race, and each individual's experience,
are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill
and that a lie told well is immortal.
~ Mark Twain

Freedom had been hunted round the globe; reason was considered as rebellion; and the slavery of fear had made men afraid to think. But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing.
~ Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791 ~

[Halophyte]

Originally Posted by Nailbender

It is said that only two U.S. Presidents: Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy, were not either Masons or elite members of affiliated bodies[/color][/size][/font][/b]

Bang, bang ...... they're gone.

wow. re: kennedy and lincoln. did not know that.

[garch]

Midas, (and Marriot)

Might there be a god that satisfies Both. (Evolution and Creation)

WE as mortals are not omnipotent (or very smart on matters of the universe).

Could not there be a Universe That Created "OUR GOD" (name who you wish)
and THAT GOD created the conditions for OUR EVOLUTION.

It works for me, your mileage may vary.

BTW, if he created the universe he could surely create any number of
other gods unique to ourself's or others.

We may never Know THE OTHER GODS, They could be for someone else, BY DESIGN. (To far away, another dimension, speak spanish pig latin, omni-someone else)

So if you think you have a god, he or she, is probably Close-by in the
metaforical (SP) sense, and you should probably worry about what YOU did
last week not what GOD did last WEEK or EON or CREATION SUNDAY.

My guess is that info (CREATION, EVOLUTION, GODS DAY PLANNER) is on a NEED TO KNOW basis, And i would guess that
you would KNOW if he was talking to you, cuz he could chose the FORM that
only YOU would understand.
There's not much point in him keeping secret's (being omnipotent and all).

Again your mileage may vary, a lot, GEEZ I looked in those opposing mirrors
at the Barber Shop and see all kinds of Cool stuff, beside's the back of my head, thats also when I heard GOD say "WATCH YOU OWN ASS".

[Midas Banned]

Garch: Will come back to this when I have a little more time. It is one of my favourite subjects because, to me, it gives insight to that much sought after knowledge we all seek - who am I.

I have found, can't speak for others, that when one comes to terms with this, it provides insight (I am avoiding the word 'answers') to much other knowledge we seek. It also makes going through life, with its vagaries and twists and turns much easier.
Midas

[Halophyte]

Originally Posted by garch

Midas, (and Marriot)

Might there be a god that satisfies Both. (Evolution and Creation)

WE as mortals are not omnipotent (or very smart on matters of the universe).

Could not there be a Universe That Created "OUR GOD" (name who you wish)
and THAT GOD created the conditions for OUR EVOLUTION.

It works for me, your mileage may vary.

BTW, if he created the universe he could surely create any number of
other gods unique to ourself's or others.

We may never Know THE OTHER GODS, They could be for someone else, BY DESIGN. (To far away, another dimension, speak spanish pig latin, omni-someone else)

So if you think you have a god, he or she, is probably Close-by in the
metaforical (SP) sense, and you should probably worry about what YOU did
last week not what GOD did last WEEK or EON or CREATION SUNDAY.

My guess is that info (CREATION, EVOLUTION, GODS DAY PLANNER) is on a NEED TO KNOW basis, And i would guess that
you would KNOW if he was talking to you, cuz he could chose the FORM that
only YOU would understand.
There's not much point in him keeping secret's (being omnipotent and all).

Again your mileage may vary, a lot, GEEZ I looked in those opposing mirrors
at the Barber Shop and see all kinds of Cool stuff, beside's the back of my head, thats also when I heard GOD say "WATCH YOU OWN ASS".

False prophets make war on other false prophets.

False prophets control your life by taking your "slack".

If you have no slack, you got no time to fight the false prophets.

There's only one true prophet .... it's "Bob", Grand Master of Slack.

Once you realize that even J.R. "Bob" Dobbs is a fraud you'll reach your own salvation from the "pink boys".

"Bob" saves, "Dobbs" sells.


http://www.modemac.com/page2.html


Join the only righteous war - our jihad for slack !!!

(all ya' gotta do is quit, drop out, goof-off and tell em' to get screwed ...)

.

[MattMarriott]

How the agents of satanic NATO (which just banned any christian references from its EU constitution) managed to mobilize the last people that didn't experience yet their reign of terror, in the Ukraine : using christian symbols


Ukraine Opposition Ends Compromise Talks (it really is the END game), Nov. 30
http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/s...ad.php?t=15348

[MattMarriott]

End times signs - google only has indexed two pages with the most important door for "human cattle" (quote: illuminati) to escape the slaughter of the illuminati
And this is one of them
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...tion+theory%22

[MattMarriott]

Explained long ago - just read again the first post : why we´ve seen more pictures of Joe Wilson´s wife than of the widening riots in Paris and Denmark in the U.S. news

[MattMarriott]

Don't blame google
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...i+exposed+1999

[MattMarriott]

Last non illuminati heads of government in US and EU former countries - revealed worldwide first by Matt Marriott
http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/t...led-first.html

[citizenkane]

can we have a special folder for mattmarriots interesting views of reality?

[Antonio]

MM,I won`t quote your first post in this thread as you asked me not to but you are describing the Illuminati so deliciously that I`m starting to like them.

[DrillAndFill]

Originally Posted by citizenkane

can we have a special folder for mattmarriots interesting views of reality?

How about a subforum for folks who think that GIM consists mostly of cautious, mainstream discussion?

:s13:

Half the stuff here is written under the influence, and it's a good thing, too.

[citizenkane]

Originally Posted by DrillAndFill

How about a subforum for folks who think that GIM consists mostly of cautious, mainstream discussion?

:s13:

Half the stuff here is written under the influence, and it's a good thing, too.

LOL...yeah I know but surely this belongs at least in the conspiracy forum.